got me a college girl

in celebration of formal education in the life of the Christian girl

Saturday, June 25, 2005

Two Kinds of People (Camille)

I still think there are two kinds of people in the world:

  • People who finished a college degree.
  • People who can't stop talking about how they don't need a college degree.

Their over-protestation proves that they do feel like they need to prove something. They do feel the lack, but they don't have the awareness or courage to say the obvious.



  • At 5:22 PM, Blogger prairie girl said…


    I do know some wonderful people who, for whatever reasons, didn't finish college. Midstream, they went along another path and have been quite successful. These people seem to have the right attitude, encouraging others on whatever path they are on.

    It all comes down to grace, if you ask me.

  • At 8:24 PM, Blogger Camille said…

    I'm not saying that they don't deserve grace or that I'm not willing to offer it.

    I'm saying that when the discussion of college comes up, more often than not those that haven't gone feel the pangs of their decision.

  • At 5:03 AM, Blogger prairie girl said…

    So what I think I am hearing you say is that there are really more than two kinds of people?

    At least, that is what I think. We need to be careful not to categorize everyone in those black and white terms. I know plenty of people who don't feel those pangs and who also didn't finish college.

    But I also want to not have a burden placed on my back that somehow it is a lesser path to have gone to college.

    And, most importantly, I want to see young women have those choices themselves when they are young adults rather than having their goals pre-determined for them whether it is to go to college or not go to college.

  • At 12:32 PM, Blogger greenemama said…

    i agree that "two kinds of people" is a bit too black and white. from either side.

    first, there are plenty of people (take the recent threads on the boards, for instance) who went to college and who hold degrees but don't see college as important or necessary for everyone. there are also people who hold degrees and yet have careers in other fields who wonder, "why did i go to college when i didn't *need* it."

    on the other side, there are many people who are highly successful in business who do not hold college degrees who do not regret starting their careers, instead -- bill gates for instance. most likely, most of these people wonder if they missed something in college, propelling some of them to pursue degrees in later adulthood. but others do not see the necessity for themselves to have gone, considering their current positions in life.

    the problem that i have is with parents who do not value college because they didn't *need* a degree, who, in turn, insist that their children do not need college, either. how very sad to grow up having your life chosen for you, from either side -- the boy whose parents insist he become an attorney but he really wanted to teach math, instead -- the girl whose parents insist that she prepare to be a SAHM, but she really wanted to be a doctor.

    for me the issue lies in insisting that there is only one right way to do things. no doubt about it: anyone who holds a college degree will have experiences and will be enriched in a way that those who do not hold degrees have missed out on. but that doesn't mean that a college-free life is lesser. i know you're not saying this . . . i'm just rambling on . . . you know what i mean?

  • At 12:43 PM, Blogger greenemama said…

    oh - and i kind of have to giggle and say, "like anyone can possibly know that, napoleon." ;)

  • At 2:55 PM, Blogger Camille said…

    Well, I'm kidding, of course. It's hyperbole. There really aren't just two kinds of people! ;)

    And I know people who are perfectly content with theit educational choices too. My mom, for one. Who is one gym class short of a high school degree!

    But when the conversation turns to if college is essentially GOOD, I think those who say "no" are in serious denial.

    There are those who say, "I will support my child in whatever." Those who say, "I hope more for my child, so I hope she goes to college." Those who say, "College is essentially good." And those who say, "College is pointless. I didn't go, and I'm just fine."

    It's that last group I've had the most irritating conversations with.

  • At 7:00 PM, Blogger greenemama said…

    yes, "that group" is the most frustrating. perhaps it is because they are also the most contentious? ::shrugging shoulders and clucking tongue::


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